anonymous ftp

[pmennen]

I was able to transfer files to/from my web site via ftp.mennen.org
using my main account user name and password. However I
also wanted to allow anonymous ftp. I checked the box in cpanel
that allows anonymous ftp to the incoming directory.
However when I type ftp.mennen.org into IE, IE complains that
this is a private network with no anonymous access.
I also tried typing ftp into a dos window and entering
"anonymous@mennen.org" as the user name. It accepted this
but then asked for a password (which didn't seem to accept
anything I tried).

How do I make this anonymous ftp work?

Thanks.

~Paul

[12Wonder]

Anonymous ftp is not a feature of our Standard or Site Builder hosting accounts.

Anne

[pmennen]

Anonymous ftp is not a feature of our Standard or Site Builder hosting accounts.

Anne

Oh, I assumed that cpanel will only let me choose things that
I'm allowed to. Bad asumption!

But it looks like I can achieve my objective by creating another
ftp account. Only drawback I guess is that a password is needed.

I created an ftp account called "public". I found that in
Firefox I could click on a link such as:

ftp://public@mennen.org@mennen.org/mindpz01.gif

and I would see the file (after entering the password).

Is there an equivalent link that will work in Internet Explorer?
(I tried a dozen different varients, but none worked).

Also, is there a way for me to create a user called "public"
instead of "public@mennen.org"? (the long user name seems
somewhat of a nuisance.)

Thanks
~Paul

[12Wonder]

Using Microsoft Internet Explorer 6+ for browser-based ftp:
You must access browser-based ftp in MS Internet Explorer using a URL of
ftp://yourdomain.com/ **NOT ftp://ftp.yourdomain.com **
then login with simply the username, NO @ anything despite what it may say in cPanel about username@yourdomain.com
username: username
password: password

Using Mozilla/Netscape 6+ for browser-based ftp:
You must access browser-based ftp in Mozilla/Netscape using a URL of ftp://username@ftp.yourdomain.com
You will then get a popup password prompt box. Enter whatever password you assigned to the username when you created the ftp account in FTP Manager.

Using Opera 7+ for browser-based ftp:
Opera allows virtual ftp access using a URL of
ftp://username@yourdomain.com
and when you get the username/password prompt enter the simple username (NO @ anything) and the password as you assigned it.

[pmennen]

Using Microsoft Internet Explorer 6+ for browser-based ftp:
You must access browser-based ftp in MS Internet Explorer using a URL of
ftp://yourdomain.com/ **NOT ftp://ftp.yourdomain.com **
then login with simply the username, NO @ anything despite what it may say in cPanel about username@yourdomain.com
username: username
password: password


That's not quite what I find.
True, it doesn't work to put in the user name in the
url like it does with FireFox, however I find that
these three entries yield the same result:

ftp://ftp.mennen.org
ftp://mennen.org
ftp.mennen.org

In all three cases, I first must close the window
issuing a warning that this is a private network,
then I must go to the file menu, select "login as"
and enter the user name and password. Boo for
microsoft, and yea for Mozilla!

>Firefox I could click on a link such as:
>ftp://public@mennen.org@mennen.org/mindpz01.gif

My real question however had to do with including
a file name in the url. In FireFox it is easy (see above).
In IE, it is either impossible, or difficult (at least
nobody yet has been able to tell me how to do it.)
If I try including the file name at the end of the url,
IE just gives me a page not found result and the
"login as" does NOT appear in the file menu.
Again yea for Mozilla!

Also, an unanswered question from earlier in the thread:

> Is there a way for me to create a user called "public"
> instead of "public@mennen.org"? (the long user name
> seems somewhat of a nuisance.)

Thanks
~Paul

[Brandon]

Hey-

> My real question however had to do with including a file name in the url.
-- Afaik, because Netscape-based browsers are smarter with permissions, it has such capability, unlike IE.

Comparison

Directory
ftp://boombox.micro.umn.edu/pub/
Specific file
ftp://boombox.micro.umn.edu/pub/movie/mpm_gopher.mov

Try it with Firefox though...you don't even have to enter password, so no, what you were referring to doesn't look possible.

> Is there a way for me to create a user called "public"
> instead of "public@mennen.org"? (the long user name
> seems somewhat of a nuisance.)

Don't think so, that's how the FTP server usernames are setup.

Hope this helps,
Brandon

[pmennen]

Hey-
Don't think so, that's how the FTP server usernames are setup.
Brandon

If I wanted to assign a user name as silly as this
I could have easily chosen to do that.

But for the programmer or system administrator
to force me to do that is thoughtless.

~Paul

[Brandon]

:)

99.9% of 1-2-Wonder customers are very happy with the servers. Nothing silly about how the programs and system here are managed and perform.

If you have any other questions, feel free to post them on this forum and we'll give you a fast answer.

Brandon

[12Wonder]

But for the programmer or system administrator
to force me to do that is thoughtless.
The @domain usernames for those ftp accounts are necessary to differentiate hosting accounts on a shared hosting server.
The specific setup in FTP Manager is cPanel's doing, by the way, not ours. cPanel does have a few quirks sometimes. But overall it is some of the best hosting admin interface software available. In the situation of FTP usernames, it's actually a pretty good solution.

Anne

[pmennen]

The @domain usernames for those ftp accounts are necessary to differentiate hosting accounts on a shared hosting server.
Anne

Compared to the complexity of everything else I see being done
by your servers, I wouldn't think it would be rocket science to
avoid confusing two different users using the same user name
on different domains. However, I don't know anything about
the code necessary to run a server ... so maybe it is rocket science.

> The specific setup in FTP Manager is cPanel's doing,
> by the way, not ours.

Didn't mean to imply that it was your fault, or that cPanel is
bad software. Clearly it is good software. I still think it would
have been nice to allow me to pick the user name.

In any case, this was just a little nit pick. Not anywhere close
to important enough to make me an unhappy costumer.

~Paul